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	<title>Comments on: No iPhone for you!</title>
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		<title>By: Sean Higgins</title>
		<link>http://www.startupottawa.com/?p=301&#038;cpage=1#comment-492</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Higgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rogers has recently removed their 1 year rule for an upgrade, strictly if you are upgrading to the iPhone 3G. I upgraded to the RAZR2 in April (what a piece of junk...) just before the iPhone 3G was announced, and when July rolled around I was also told that there was no possible way to get one through Rogers.

Then about two weeks ago, low and behold, I&#039;m on the Rogers website managing my account and there&#039;s a link on the main Wireless page just teasing me: &quot;Upgrade to the iPhone 3G&quot; so I click it, and sure enough it told me I was eligible and to call customer service, or visit a local retailer! Naturally I ran as quickly as possible over to my local Rogers store and they had one 16GB left! (though it was white..) Ten minutes later I was out the door with my new iPhone.

If you haven&#039;t already switched to _______ I would recommend you give Rogers a call regarding this to confirm. Good luck!

Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rogers has recently removed their 1 year rule for an upgrade, strictly if you are upgrading to the iPhone 3G. I upgraded to the RAZR2 in April (what a piece of junk&#8230;) just before the iPhone 3G was announced, and when July rolled around I was also told that there was no possible way to get one through Rogers.</p>
<p>Then about two weeks ago, low and behold, I&#8217;m on the Rogers website managing my account and there&#8217;s a link on the main Wireless page just teasing me: &#8220;Upgrade to the iPhone 3G&#8221; so I click it, and sure enough it told me I was eligible and to call customer service, or visit a local retailer! Naturally I ran as quickly as possible over to my local Rogers store and they had one 16GB left! (though it was white..) Ten minutes later I was out the door with my new iPhone.</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t already switched to _______ I would recommend you give Rogers a call regarding this to confirm. Good luck!</p>
<p>Sean</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.startupottawa.com/?p=301&#038;cpage=1#comment-446</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was recently in Toronto and decided to visit my favourite tech. spot, the Pacific Mall.  

The new iPhone 3g can be bought there without contract.  The iPhone 3g is selling at $750 (8GB) and $850 (16GB).  After looking around, this seems to be standard price for the new 3g without contract.

Since both Rogers and Fido carry the iPhone, there is no longer a need to unlock these phones. Simply sign up for the new contract, insert your SIM card and go.  

Although spending $750 seems hardly cost-efficient when you can cancel your current plan and purchase the new phone (with contract) for $650, this could be a solution for those people who are not interested in signing up for a new contract or are interested in creating their own custom plan.

This is also a solution for those people who have recently bought the new 3g with contract and have dropped in the toilet (or destroyed it in some other method). Since both Apple and Rogers do not cover this damage in their warranty, the only option they offer is to sign up for another 2 year contract and purchase another iPhone (Ouch!)

I should also mention that the original iPhone is selling in stores at $400.  This model will need to be unlocked, a fairly simple task for the average computer user.  I&#039;ve been using my original iPhone on Rogers for over a year now without a problem. 

So for all of you who have lost hope in having an iPhone, there is still light at the end of the tunnel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was recently in Toronto and decided to visit my favourite tech. spot, the Pacific Mall.  </p>
<p>The new iPhone 3g can be bought there without contract.  The iPhone 3g is selling at $750 (8GB) and $850 (16GB).  After looking around, this seems to be standard price for the new 3g without contract.</p>
<p>Since both Rogers and Fido carry the iPhone, there is no longer a need to unlock these phones. Simply sign up for the new contract, insert your SIM card and go.  </p>
<p>Although spending $750 seems hardly cost-efficient when you can cancel your current plan and purchase the new phone (with contract) for $650, this could be a solution for those people who are not interested in signing up for a new contract or are interested in creating their own custom plan.</p>
<p>This is also a solution for those people who have recently bought the new 3g with contract and have dropped in the toilet (or destroyed it in some other method). Since both Apple and Rogers do not cover this damage in their warranty, the only option they offer is to sign up for another 2 year contract and purchase another iPhone (Ouch!)</p>
<p>I should also mention that the original iPhone is selling in stores at $400.  This model will need to be unlocked, a fairly simple task for the average computer user.  I&#8217;ve been using my original iPhone on Rogers for over a year now without a problem. </p>
<p>So for all of you who have lost hope in having an iPhone, there is still light at the end of the tunnel.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Rusk</title>
		<link>http://www.startupottawa.com/?p=301&#038;cpage=1#comment-444</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Rusk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey little update on this-- On August 24, I know Fido at least is going to let up and let existing users get a iPhone, even if they are locked in a contract. I would assume since Rogers owns Fido, it&#039;s going to be the same deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey little update on this&#8211; On August 24, I know Fido at least is going to let up and let existing users get a iPhone, even if they are locked in a contract. I would assume since Rogers owns Fido, it&#8217;s going to be the same deal.</p>
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		<title>By: What&#8217;s with Rogers whacky iPhone policies? &#8212; Alec Saunders SquawkBox</title>
		<link>http://www.startupottawa.com/?p=301&#038;cpage=1#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>What&#8217;s with Rogers whacky iPhone policies? &#8212; Alec Saunders SquawkBox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As Scott Annan found out,  the only way Rogers will let you buy an iPhone from them is to cancel your existing contract (cost $450), and sign up for a new three year contract.  That&#8217;s a $700 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As Scott Annan found out,  the only way Rogers will let you buy an iPhone from them is to cancel your existing contract (cost $450), and sign up for a new three year contract.  That&#8217;s a $700 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Milne</title>
		<link>http://www.startupottawa.com/?p=301&#038;cpage=1#comment-432</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Milne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, i think the bigger issue is getting the &quot;deal&quot;. getting the phone in from the US, cracking it, transferring your sim card.... that is a snap. The hard part is getting the G3 deal. 

I am sure you could convince one of your cool Iphone touting buddies to &quot;loose&quot; theirs and get a replacement. The question would be about getting the G3 for your new phone. 

I think Rogers has screwed this up... but what do they care, Every morning at 10 to 10:15 the new boxes arrive and they have a line up of people looking for an iPhone.... Do not even get me started on Mobile Me. (a distant cousin of .Mac).

May be you are destined to be a Black Berry user... i hear there is a new one coming out that plays music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, i think the bigger issue is getting the &#8220;deal&#8221;. getting the phone in from the US, cracking it, transferring your sim card&#8230;. that is a snap. The hard part is getting the G3 deal. </p>
<p>I am sure you could convince one of your cool Iphone touting buddies to &#8220;loose&#8221; theirs and get a replacement. The question would be about getting the G3 for your new phone. </p>
<p>I think Rogers has screwed this up&#8230; but what do they care, Every morning at 10 to 10:15 the new boxes arrive and they have a line up of people looking for an iPhone&#8230;. Do not even get me started on Mobile Me. (a distant cousin of .Mac).</p>
<p>May be you are destined to be a Black Berry user&#8230; i hear there is a new one coming out that plays music.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.startupottawa.com/?p=301&#038;cpage=1#comment-431</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Scott!

I agree with Mr Zek, and what&#039;s more, just for having this kind of answers from my cell phone plan provider, I would cancel right away my contract, whatever is the price.

Bye,

Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Scott!</p>
<p>I agree with Mr Zek, and what&#8217;s more, just for having this kind of answers from my cell phone plan provider, I would cancel right away my contract, whatever is the price.</p>
<p>Bye,</p>
<p>Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolas BOZEK</title>
		<link>http://www.startupottawa.com/?p=301&#038;cpage=1#comment-427</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicolas BOZEK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy Scott,

I&#039;ll throw a crazy idea out there...
If you don&#039;t need 3G, why don&#039;t you get a 1st gen iPhone on eBay.

Now that the 3g version is out, I&#039;m sure that with the you&#039;ll be able to find 1st gen iphones with the latest firmware at bargain price.

My 2 Euros,

Nicolas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy Scott,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll throw a crazy idea out there&#8230;<br />
If you don&#8217;t need 3G, why don&#8217;t you get a 1st gen iPhone on eBay.</p>
<p>Now that the 3g version is out, I&#8217;m sure that with the you&#8217;ll be able to find 1st gen iphones with the latest firmware at bargain price.</p>
<p>My 2 Euros,</p>
<p>Nicolas</p>
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		<title>By: infz</title>
		<link>http://www.startupottawa.com/?p=301&#038;cpage=1#comment-426</link>
		<dc:creator>infz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rogers is a horrible company and a monopoly.  The iPhone was a crazed scam to sign up new customers; and no, they&#039;ve never cared for their existing ones.

Also notice their recent DNS hijacking:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080720/1055151734.shtml

Please, refuse to hand Rogers a dime, and get a different phone/tv service/isp with other providers.  For those who want an iPhone... I&#039;m sorry, but it&#039;s not worth it for the hell they&#039;ll put you through.  Just get an iPod Touch and a normal cellphone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rogers is a horrible company and a monopoly.  The iPhone was a crazed scam to sign up new customers; and no, they&#8217;ve never cared for their existing ones.</p>
<p>Also notice their recent DNS hijacking:<br />
<a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080720/1055151734.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080720/1055151734.shtml</a></p>
<p>Please, refuse to hand Rogers a dime, and get a different phone/tv service/isp with other providers.  For those who want an iPhone&#8230; I&#8217;m sorry, but it&#8217;s not worth it for the hell they&#8217;ll put you through.  Just get an iPod Touch and a normal cellphone.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Godse</title>
		<link>http://www.startupottawa.com/?p=301&#038;cpage=1#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Godse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Craig Fitzpatrick. 

Rogers and Telus are acting exactly like Bell Canada used to act 20 years ago with long distance phone service. 

What the consumers really need is the unbundling of the local phone loop, local cable loop and local wireless loop just like in the ILEC/CLEC days of 1996 in the USA (with the phone loop anyways). 

That would enable competition on the basis of customer value rather than the current quasi-monopoly caused by having monopoly access to the cable and wireless local access loops. 

As for buying up competitors (Craig), the US government allowed that in exchange for opening up some other monopolized resource or for building out modern infrastructure. For example, Bell South was, I believe, allowed to get into long distance in exchange for building out high-speed access to the rural areas. A prudent Canadian government could do the same...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Craig Fitzpatrick. </p>
<p>Rogers and Telus are acting exactly like Bell Canada used to act 20 years ago with long distance phone service. </p>
<p>What the consumers really need is the unbundling of the local phone loop, local cable loop and local wireless loop just like in the ILEC/CLEC days of 1996 in the USA (with the phone loop anyways). </p>
<p>That would enable competition on the basis of customer value rather than the current quasi-monopoly caused by having monopoly access to the cable and wireless local access loops. </p>
<p>As for buying up competitors (Craig), the US government allowed that in exchange for opening up some other monopolized resource or for building out modern infrastructure. For example, Bell South was, I believe, allowed to get into long distance in exchange for building out high-speed access to the rural areas. A prudent Canadian government could do the same&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Fitzpatrick</title>
		<link>http://www.startupottawa.com/?p=301&#038;cpage=1#comment-423</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Fitzpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if I understand correctly, the wireless spectrum bid in Canada has been concluded, resulting in what will be &quot;5 new wireless companies&quot; (did I get that right?)

Who wants to bet that after these new companies get running, Rogers starts buying them up to protect their monopoly.  And I wouldn&#039;t put it past our government to turn around and approve the mergers! :S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if I understand correctly, the wireless spectrum bid in Canada has been concluded, resulting in what will be &#8220;5 new wireless companies&#8221; (did I get that right?)</p>
<p>Who wants to bet that after these new companies get running, Rogers starts buying them up to protect their monopoly.  And I wouldn&#8217;t put it past our government to turn around and approve the mergers! :S</p>
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